"Pali madzi oyera ndi akumwa, madzi achikasu, akuda ndi osasunthika - madzi olemera, pali madzi amchere. Koma mbalame zimadziwa bwino zimenezi. Pakhoza kukhala zikwi za madzi, koma iwo adzasankha ndi kusamba pamalo ena. Ndinayang'ana, ndakhala ndikuwonera kwa maola ambiri - nkhuku zikudumphira, kugwedezeka, kumwa ... ndipo tsiku lililonse pali mbalame pamalo amodzi. Awa ndi madzi amene sauma ndi kuyenda mochepa pa dziko. Kodi zolengedwa zosalakwa zimenezi zimamva bwanji kuti chabwino ndi chiyani? Sitinadziwebe zinsinsi za dziko lapansi. Zimabisika kwa ife - zomwe madzi amalankhula ndi zomwe zimachiritsa. Madzi aliwonse ali ndi zinsinsi, koma sitingathe kuwapeza. Diso la munthu lili ndi makatani asanu ndi awiri ndipo masomphenya ake ndi ochepa. nyama imatha kununkhiza. "- Kuyankhulana kwa Anita Cholakova ndi "Iye Amene Akuyankhula ndi Madzi" kwa actualno.com.
Ichi ndi kachigawo kakang'ono kwambiri kuchokera m'buku la "Water Speaks" lolemba Maria Bebelekova. Munthu wamkulu momwemo ndi Zamfir Manchev wotchuka - Bai Mancho wochokera ku Smolyan (mapiri a Rhodopes ku Bulgaria). Mu ntchito ya mkazi wa Rodope ndi Amene amalankhula ndi madzi. Pakadali pano, wamanga akasupe opitilira 300, adamanga milatho yambiri, imodzi mwazomwe adazisamalira kwa zaka 40.
Pafupifupi zaka 5 zapitazo, a Bai (amalume) a Mancho adamanga "kasupe wamtunda" * ku Smolyan - kasupe wouma kwambiri m'derali. Anaika madzi okwana makilomita asanu ndi limodzi pakati pa Raykovo ndi Dunevo pamalo ouma, kumene kulibe madzi a anthu kapena nyama.
Ali mwana, ankaweta nkhosa ndipo anamva kwa anthu okalamba kuti m’nthawi ya ku Turkey madzi ankayenda kwa masiku atatu, koma kenako anasochera. Anayamba kulota ali ndi zaka 80.
"Ndinalota ndikumwa madzi mulu ndipo nditapita ndi baguettes (ndodo zamkuwa, zokhotakhota kumanja), ndinapeza madzi pamtunda wa mamita 70. Tsopano madzi omwewo adatengedwa mtunda wa makilomita 6.3, "akutero Bai Mancho. Iye ananenanso kuti kasupewo anatcha “Zem-zem” chifukwa madzi oyera amenewa amapezeka pamanda a Mulungu okha. Ndipo ndi woyera chifukwa sunatuluke kwa zaka mazana ambiri. Zinaonekera kwa ine m’maloto. Ndinapita ndikukakumba, "adawonjezera mbuye.
Tinamupempha kuti afunse mafunso kuti aulule zinsinsi zake mu gawo la "Wosunga Miyambo".
Bai Mancho munapanga bwanji ubwenzi ndi madzi ndipo liti?
Kuyambira ndili mwana. Nthawi zonse ndimayenda ndi thumba ladongo pamsana panga, ndiye paliponse ndikapeza kasupe, ndimagwira, ndikuumba. Kuchokera kumitengo ndinapanga spout - anthu ndi nyama kumwa. Nthawi zonse ndimakokedwa kumadzi. Ndinkasewera ndi madzi nthawi zonse. Anthu okalamba adandiuza momwe adapezera madzi ndi baguette. Ndipo pamene ndinayamba kusewera - ndi timitengo ta msondodzi, pang'onopang'ono, ndinagwira lusolo. Ubwana unali pachiyambi.
Ndi mikhalidwe yotani yomwe muyenera kuchita ndi madzi, kulankhula nanu, kuti muwazindikire?
Muyenera kusunga nthawi, chilungamo, chabwino, kugwira ntchito za aliyense, osati kudzikuza kuti mwaphunzira ntchito. Palibe chabwino kuposa kukoma mtima ndi kuona mtima. Posachedwapa ananditengera ku Raykovo, kusukulu yasekondale. Anasonkhanitsa anawo n’kuwauza mmene ndinayendera m’njira zowongoka komanso mmene ndinapitira. Panali ana amene ankafuna kuti ndiwasonyeze mmene angachitire, kuti nawonso avutike. Ena ali ndi biocurrents. Akhoza kuphunzira ntchito imeneyi. Komabe, siziyenera kukhala ma biocurrents okha, komanso kukuthandizani kuchokera mkati.
Kodi “mkati” n’chiyani?
Mwazi womwewo, thupi lenilenilo, limakukokera iwe kumadzi. Izi ndizosowa. Anthu ambiri ali ndi ma biocurrents, koma samapeza madzi paliponse. Thupi langa lonse limandithandiza kuzindikira.
Ndi madzi amtundu wanji omwe mwapeza mpaka pano?
Zambiri. Pali madzi oyera ndi omwa, madzi achikasu, akuda ndi osasunthika, madzi olemera. Pali madzi amchere. Pali madzi amoyo ndi akufa. Akufa sangathe kuthawa, angobisala. Aliyense amene ali katswiri woona madzi mumsewu akhoza kukuuzani ngati akuchokera ku kasupe, ngati akuchokera ku kasupe, kumene akuchokera. Madzi amadziwika kuti ndi oyera. Ndizovuta kupeza ndi kugwira. Kukumba n'kofunika kwambiri, chifukwa pamene mukukumba, mukhoza kutaya "amayi". Mukufuna mbuye. Tsopano mnyamata wochokera ku Raykovo - Nikola Badev, amagwira ntchito ku Sofia, koma masabata awiri amabwera kwa ine kuti ndimuphunzitse zaluso. Ndine wokalamba ndipo ndi zabwino kupereka kwa wina amene angatenge. Iyenso ndi mnyamata. Ndimamuphunzitsa momwe angachepetse ma baguette, momwe angawagwiritsire, choti achite. Adzaphunzira, ngakhale kuti sangapeze paliponse, nsomba kuti aphunzire, gwero la momwe angayendetsere - mokwanira kachiwiri.
Kodi mumadziwa kuti ndi madzi ati omwe angachiritse, omwe angathetse ludzu?
Inde, ndikuwazindikira. Ndili ndi madzi m'mudzi wa Peshtera, panjira yopita ku Turyan. Anthu amamugulitsa kuti azisamalira maso.
Kodi pali imodzi yomwe ingapweteke?
Pali. Kuti zisavulaze, ziyenera kukhala zoyera ndi zoyera. Makamaka ana ndi okalamba - amadwala kwambiri madzi. Chikhale choyera kwambiri kwa iwo.
Mukamagwira naye ntchito, amakukanizani ndipo mumamuweta bwanji?
Amandimvera. Tsiku lina mwana wanga wamkazi anatumiza mpongozi kuti adzandithandize. Ndimakumba madzi. Njoka inatuluka ndipo sinamulole kuti apite kumadzi chifukwa ankamwa mowa. Madzi ali ndi luso, amakutetezani ngati ndinu munthu wophunzira.
Kodi ndi zoona kuti madzi ali ndi kukumbukira?
Zoona, ndi kukumbukira kwakukulu. Ndinapita kumanda a Mulungu chaka chatha ku Israel. Ndinapitanso ku mtsinje wa Yorodano. Nditapita kumtsinje, makinawo adadina, amajambula zithunzi. Ndipo pamene madzi anayamba kuwira ndi kugwedera, kunali kuzizira. Ndipo imabwera mpaka kumaso kwanga. Anandizindikira! Ali ndi luso komanso kukumbukira. Taonani kumene ndinachokera, ndayenda ulendo wautali kwambiri pa ndege, koma madzi awa anandizindikiranso. Kumeneko ndinauzidwa kukwera helikoputala ndi kukapeza “mayi” a Mtsinje wa Yordano, koma kunalibe malo oti ndegeyo inkatera. Anandifunsa ngati ndingaweruze kuchokera kumlengalenga. Ndipo izo sizingakhoze. Ndiyenera kukhala pansi, kuti ndiwone momwe matembenuzidwe aliri, momwe amayendera, zimangochitika pafupi.
Anakupatsani inu kuti mufufuze kuchokera mumlengalenga kumene Mtsinje wa Yordano unachokera, sichoncho iwo?
Inde, koma zili m'mapiri, m'dera lankhondo, mulibe malo otera. Sitinathe kupita chifukwa timangojambula zithunzi, koma sitingathe kuwona momwe zimayambira pansi, komwe kuli. Iwo anandiuza kuti izo zimachokera ku malo atatu.
Inu mumati madzi ndi amodzi padziko lonse lapansi, ndipo chilichonse chomwe chimachitika kumapeto kwake, madzi amachidziwa kumalekezero ena a dziko lapansi. Ndizotheka kodi?
Iyi ndi ntchito yopatulika, ntchito ya Yehova. Dziko likulankhula, mitengo ndi yamoyo. Ndipo amalankhula, ali ngati ife, anthu.
Kodi munthu angakhulupirire madzi kapena ndi chosowa chomwe popanda moyo palibe, ndipo chikhulupiriro ndi china - mwa Mulungu kapena Allah?
Mumalemekeza madzi ndipo adzakulemekezani. Ikayenda imalankhula, ikadontha, imalankhula, koma munthu sangamvetse chilichonse. Nyengo ikayamba kuwonongeka, madzi amabangula. Amakuuzani zonse, koma sitingamvetse chilichonse.
Ndi madzi angati omwe mwatulutsa mpaka pano, mumawawerenga?
Ndinawerenga mpaka 300, kenako Wamphamvuyonse anawawerenga. Munthu sayenera kunyadira kuti ali ndi luso laluso.
Kodi ndizotheka kuti madzi ndi kulumikizana kwathu ndi chilengedwe komanso ndi Ambuye?
Zingatheke bwanji - bar iliyonse, kutalika kulikonse kumalankhula kuthambo.
Kodi mwakhala bwanji nthawi yozizira komanso mliriwu mpaka pano?
Ndili bwino. Atolankhani ochokera ku Sofia amandithandiza, amasamutsa ndalama za nkhuni, ndipo kuchokera ku Smolyan amandibweretsera. Ndili ndi zonse.
Munatseka miyeziyi chifukwa ndinu munthu amene tsiku limadutsa osanyowa ndi kunyowa?
Ah, nditonthole!? Ndimakhala kunja tsiku lonse, ndikuzizira, koma sindingathe kukhala mkati. Ndimakhala ndi nkhawa ndikakhala mkati. Sindingadikire kuti mvula ileke kugwa, chifukwa mvula ikamagwa, sungayang'ane madzi. Amafufuzidwa bwino kumtunda kuti akhale olondola, kutsimikizira komwe amachokera.
Kodi coronavirus yomwe idatigwerayi ikutiphunzitsa chiyani?
Ili ndi lumbiro. Uku ndi kumenya mbama kwa ife chifukwa sitikhulupirira. M’malingaliro anga osavuta, achikulire, tikadayamba kupereka nsembe ndi kupemphera, mwina akanasiya tsopano.
Kodi mukuganiza kuti anthu akusintha bwanji pazovutazi - zabwino kapena zoyipa?
Tili ndi Mdyerekezi. Amatinamiza kulikonse. Tiyenera kudziwa Mulungu basi.
Tsopano ndi nthawi yoti Akhristu ndi Asilamu azisala kudya ndi kupemphera. Kwa zipembedzo zonse ziwiri, maholide oyeretsa kwambiri akubwera - Isitala ndi Ramadan. Kodi mumawalandira bwanji?
Ndi bwino kutha kusonkhana, anthu ambiri palimodzi. Ndipo anthu osachepera 40 ayenera kusonkhana. Ngati anthu 40 asonkhana pamodzi ndi munthu mmodzi wabwino, machimo awo onse akhululukidwa. Tiyenera kukhulupirira, tiyenera kulawa chakudya cha munthu wachifundo. Mkate ndi wamphamvu kwambiri.
Kodi mumapita kutchalitchi, ku mzikiti munthawi zachilendozi, za coronavirus?
Ndimapitanso kutchalitchi, ndimapitanso ku mzikiti. sindimapanga kusiyana. Mulungu ndi mmodzi. Ndimadzuka m'mawa ndikupemphera padzuwa. Anthu amandiseka. Ndipo ndakhala ndikupemphera chonchi kuyambira ndili mwana.
Kodi mukupempherera chiyani?
Ndikupemphera kwa dzuwa, ndi Mulungu, Mulungu - nthawi zonse kuwala, kuwala kwa aliyense, palibe kusiyana pakati pa anthu ndi nyama.
Popeza nthawi zambiri mumakhala m'madzi, mumalota chiyani usiku?
Ndimalota madzi ambiri. Nthawi zina amandiuza komwe ndimupeze. Posachedwapa, mtsikana wina wa ku Levochevo analota madzi ku Ilinden, kumene nsembe imaperekedwa. Anabwera ndikunditenga kuti ndikawone, koma ndikayang'ana ndi chidziwitso changa ndi maguwa, malotowo amasinthidwa. Kulibe madzi kumeneko, payenera kukhala kasupe. Madzi ayenera kubweretsedwako. Maloto ambiri, si onse omwe angathe kuwamasulira. Anthu ambiri amafuna kupanga madzi. Ndimamanganso milatho, yomwe ndakhala ndikuikonza kwa zaka 40.
Ndi milatho ingati yomwe mwamanga ndipo yomwe mwaisamalira kwa zaka zambiri ili kuti?
Iwo sali ngati akasupe, koma omwe ndimasunga ndi aakulu kwambiri - kuchokera ku Raykovo amabwera kuchipatala ndi nthambi kupita ku Mwala Woyera. Pali anthu amene amayesa nkhwangwa kuti awone ngati ili yakuthwa. Amayima pamlatho ndikusewera pamenepo. Amawononga ndalama. Panopa tilibe anthu okhazikika ngati amenewa. Achinyamata ayenera kuphunzitsidwa kwambiri ndi amayi ndi abambo awo. Akuyembekezera mphunzitsi. Kusukulu amauzidwa zabwino ndi zoipa, koma ngakhale pamenepo amaiwala. Makolo ayenera kumutsogolera usana ndi usiku kuti achite zabwino zonse.
Kodi zidatani ndi kasupe wanu wa "land-land" pakati pa Raykovo ndi Ustovo, akuyenda?
Imathamanga, koma imawononga kwambiri. Akuyenda ataledzera. Ndinaika mtsuko, ndipo amauponya, kuuphwanya. Pali osakhulupirira ambiri. Amawononga zambiri kuposa momwe amamangira. Izo zimatikokera ife mmbuyo, zimatibweretsera ife matenda ndi chirichonse. Sitingaloledwe, Mulungu amadziwa mmene Mulungu amatilekerera.
Ndinu wokhudzidwa kwambiri, ndipo mukamalankhula ndi munthu, mumamva momwe alili?
Aa, akundiseka - akukuwa, "Sali bwino." Aliyense akuyembekezera Khonsolo (matauni - br) ndi boma kuti achite izi. Ndipo ife ndife dziko. Tonse tiyenera kuyesetsa kuteteza ndi kukonza, osati kuwononga.
Ndi madzi ambiri otseguka ndi milatho, anthu adzakukumbukirani, komanso ndi nzeru zambiri, zimachokera kuti?
Payokha. Mnyamata wina wa m’midzi ya Devin anandizindikira m’mphepete mwa msewu, ndipo anandilowetsa m’galimoto ndi kundipititsira kunyumba. Amandikuwa kuti: “Bai Mancho, umalankhula choncho chifukwa uli kumayiko a ku Balkan. Ngati simuli ku Balkans, simudzakhala ndi mawu awa, malingaliro awa. " Tikumva athanzi pano. Mwa njira, sindikanatha kudikirira mtolankhani kuti andiyimbire, abwere kudzalemba kuti ndayang'ana kale maso anga ndipo tsopano ndimagwira ntchito kulikonse. Nthawi zina timalankhula zoipa za madokotala. Sindiyenera kutero, anandithandiza - maso onse awiri anandichita opaleshoni pachipatala cha Smolyan, ndine wokondwa kwambiri. Ndikufuna kuthokoza madokotala, koma sindikudziwa mayina awo. Ngati mungathe, zikomo chifukwa cha ine!
* Kasupe wa Zem-Zem ali pa chilumba cha Arabia, mumzinda wa Mecca. Madzi ochokera m'mayiko achisilamu amaonedwa kuti ndi oyera kwambiri padziko lapansi. Imeneyi ndi imodzi mwa mphatso zamtengo wapatali zimene oyendayenda amabwera akabwera kuchokera ku kulambira.
