Munyika umo mifungo namasekete anowanzonyandura gakava nenyongano, kunzwisisa kuoma kunzwisisa kweizvi zvinoitika kunova kukuru. The European Times akava nemukana usingawanzowaniki wekugara pasi naPeter Schulte, musayendisiti anoremekedzwa wezvemagariro evanhu uye aimbove Weltanschauungsbeauftragter (inonzi nevakawanda "sect/cult commissioner"), uyo akanyura mukatikati mezvidzidzo izvi kweanopfuura makore gumi. Mubvunzurudzo iyi yakasarudzika, Schulte anogovera zviitiko zvake zvakadzama, fungidziro, uye cherechedzo zvinojekesa nyika inowanzosanzwisiswa ye "sekete" uye "masekete."
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Nebasa rinotora kubva 1998 kusvika 2010, basa raSchulte semumiriri wepfungwa nemasekete rakamuratidza maonero akasiyana uye nyaya dzehupenyu dzinobata. Mukupesana nezvinokarirwa, akawana kuti chimiro chechokwadi cheizvi zvinhu chakanga chakaoma zvikuru uye chakabatana nenzanga kupfuura zvaidavirwa kare. Muhurukuro iyi yechokwadi, Schulte anotaura kuti kusangana kwake nevanhu vari kutsvaga rubatsiro kwaiwanzo tungamira kune zvakazarurwa zvinoshamisa, zvichipfuura kuratidzwa kwepamusoro-kwezvinonzi "machechi."
Sezvo nhaurirano ichiyerera, Schulte anoongororawo mune zvakaitika kwaari Scientology, nyaya inoramba ichikwezva veruzhinji. Kuburikidza nekutsvagisa nekuongorora zvine hungwaru, anofumura zvikonzero zvemagariro zvinotyaira kushorwa kwesangano rechitendero iri, kupikisa maonero aripo uye kusimudza mibvunzo inokwenya pfungwa pamusoro pehunhu netsika. Bhuku rake rinofukidza mibvunzo yakaita sekuti “Pamusoro peicho chikonzero chaivepo Scientology yakazivisa tyisidziro yenzanga? Ndezvipi zvakanga zviri zvikonzero zvezviito izvi? Ndeapi masangano, vanhu kana vamwe vatambi vakabatanidzwa zvakanyanya? Vakashandisa nzira dzipi kugadzira Scientology kuita kunge ngozi?"
Muhurukuro inovhura maziso, Schulte anopa maonero matsva pamusoro pe "dambudziko rechitendero," achikurudzira kune imwe nzira yakanyanyisa uye ine chinangwa yekunzwisisa chitendero chitsva uye zvekunamata. Anotenda kuti hurumende, kwete machechi chete, anofanira kuita basa rekusimudzira nyaya dzechitendero.
Joinha isu patinotanga rwendo rweruzivo uye kujekeswa naPeter Schulte, tichiongorora zvakavanzwa kuseri kwedzidziso nemasekete muhurukuro iyi yakasarudzika yakaunzwa kwauri. The European Times.
The European Times: Wakave sei "mumiririri wemafungiro nemasekete" (Weltanschauungsbeauftragter)?
Peter Schulte: Zvaive zvidiki chaizvo. Ndakanga ndaita doctorate yangu sesaenzi wezvemagariro evanhu muna 1998, ndanga ndichishanda mukutsvaga kwekanguva uye ndaingotsvaga dambudziko idzva. Sezvineiwo ndakasangana nechiziviso chebepanhau: vanhu vaitsvakwa kuti vamise uye vatarise nzvimbo yeruzivo yenyaya dzechitendero nedzepfungwa. Mushandirwi aive dunhu reTyrol. Ndakanyorera ndikagamuchirwa ndisingazive zvokutarisira.
Wakashanda ikoko kwenguva yakareba sei?
PS: Kubva 1998 kusvika 2010, mubazi rezvemagariro nezvematongerwo enyika reHofisi yeHurumende yeTyrolean. Ndakanga ndine vashandi vaviri, hofisi huru uye ndaitarisira nzvimbo yekuraira uye ruzivo rwe "nyaya dzemasekete".
Ndezvipi zvawakasangana nazvo panguva iyi?
PS: Ndakaona zvichinakidza kuziva kuti ndevapi vanhu vakauya kusangano rakadaro vane hanya nazvo. Mashoko ekutanga andakagamuchira akanga ari mashoko aibva kunzvimbo dzakasiyana-siyana dzokupa mazano mumasekete muGermany neAustria, kubva kuzvirongwa zvechechi nehurumende uyewo kubva kuvabereki vakazvimirira. Zviratidzo zvakanga zvakajeka: ngozi yeanonzi masangano ezvitendero yakakura zvikuru uye neniwo ndaigona kuva mumwe munhu anobatanidzwa mukurwisa uipi munyika. Zvombo zvinodiwa zveizvi, kureva mabhurocha emashoko emarudzi ose, zvakapiwa pakarepo.
Zvisinei, vanhu vaiuya kwandiri zvakananga nokuda kwezano vakanga vasingafariri mabhuku. Vainyanya kufarira matambudziko ekongiri, ezuva nezuva ayo sezviri pachena aiva nechokuita neanonzi masekete. Pakunyatsoongorora, zvisinei, kazhinji zvakaonekwa kuti matambudziko avo akange akaoma uye akasvika kure uye kuti dambudziko rinokonzera - kureva iro rinodaidzwa kuti kapoka - raingova chikamu chimwe chehurongwa hwese hwekudyidzana.
Idzi dzaive nyaya dzehupenyu hwemunhu apo kuyedza kwakagadzirwa kuvaka "secult-like" mamiriro. Vamwe vaitsvaga rubatsiro vainge vakaoma zvekuti vainge vasisakwanise kuita counselling.
Vaitenda mudzidziso dzokurangana uye masimba okune dzimwe nyika ayo aizovaganhurira nokuvashandisa muzviito zvavo. Izvi zvinocherechedzwa zvakafuratirwa zvachose muchiitiko chekupa mazano, kunyangwe mukuona kwangu, zvinoumba hwaro hwakakosha hwekukurukurirana pamusoro pekuita neanonzi machechi.
Chii chaungatiudze nezve chiitiko chako nacho Scientology?
PS: Scientology inoshandira vanhu vazhinji seratidziro yehuipi par kugona. Hazvina basa zvachose kuti kupomerwa ichokwadi here kana kuti inhema, chakakosha ndechekuti dzinoshanda kusimudzira ngano dzeanonzi masekete. Nzvimbo yekuraira inoita zvese kutakura uye kuchengetedza mufananidzo uyu. Zvakandishamisa pandakaverenga kuti munzvimbo dzakawanda dzekupa mazano, Scientology iri pamusoro pezvinyorwa zvezvikumbiro. Handina kukwanisa kuona izvi.
Munguva yangu yekushanda, ndaitarisira nhengo dze Scientology avo vaitsvaga rubatsiro, kuperekedzwa nekurairwa pakubuda kwavo. Asi hapana akauya kwandiri, panzvimbo pezvo vanhu vaibva mumachechi aizivikanwa vaida kusiya vakauya kwandiri, zvikurukuru vakuru vakuru vakanga vasingawirirani nechiremera chechechi. Uye kunyange zvazvo vakanga vakazvipira zvikuru kuzvakanaka zvavose, vakanga vakazara nokusazvifunga uye kuva nemhaka.
Kusvikira nhasi, hurukuro yakazaruka pamusoro Scientology inoshaikwa, zvikurukuru mhinduro kumubvunzo mukuru werevo yorudzidziso rutsva nomudzimu munyika yazova inovhiringidza. Ini ndinoona rimwe dambudziko mubasa reiyo classical media kuburitsa ruzivo rwakavimbika uye chokwadi. Nekudaro, nekuuya kwesocial media uye mitsva yeruzivo nzira, ivo vanowanzomanikidzwa kuunza kutarisisa kuti kuverenga kwavo kusadonha.
Chii chakaita kuti usiye basa mushure memakore gumi nemaviri?
PS: Ndakaona kuti hapana kwandaisvika. Hurumende yenyika yakanga ine tarisiro dzandakanga ndisingadi kana kuti kukwanisa kuzadzisa. Chero bedzi iwe uchiparadzira "ngozi yemasekete" uye nokudaro uchidana specter nezita rayo, iwe uri chikamu chenzanga isingazivi kusava nechokwadi kwako pachako. Munhu wese anofanira kufunga zvakafanana uye avo vasingadaro vanotyisidzirwa nekudzingwa uye kudzingwa kusingaperi. Icho chimiro chechikamu chikuru chechiitiko chekupa mazano icho chinonyanya kufuratira maonero akasiyana uye zviitiko, kunyange zvazvo ichinongedza kune dambudziko iri mu "sekete".
Iwe wakanyora bhuku pane imwe nguva gare gare.
PS: Hungu, ndaida kuita kuti cherekedzo dzangu nezvakaitika zviwanike kuvoruzhinji vanofarira, kuunza fungidziro itsva mukurukurirano, sokunge zvakadaro. Mhedzisiro yaive yakakurumbira-yesainzi ongororo inotarisa musoro wenyaya pamatanho akasiyana.
Bhuku rako idzva rakazvipira zvachose kunyaya ye Scientology. Sei?
PS: Ndaida kuziva kuti gakava iri rakauya sei, sei Scientology iri kucherechedzwa neHofisi yeGerman yeKudzivirirwa kweBumbiro reMitemo uye izvo zvemagariro zvinokanganisa chimiro chemagariro Scientology. Kuti ndiite izvi, ndakatsvaga zvakanyanya kwemakore, ndakashanda kuburikidza nemagwaro uye ndakaita mabvunzurudzo. Kuongororwa kwemafaira eGerman Federal Government chete kunoratidza kutetepa kwe data uye izvo Scientology yakanyatso kucherechedzwa neHofisi Yekuchengetedzwa kweBumbiro kubva muna 1997 pasina hwaro.
Scientology chinhu chinonakidza nekuti tinokwanisa kuona magariro emagariro ekusabatanidzwa uye kushorwa munzira iyo nzanga inotarisana neNew Religious Movement iyi. Hurukuro iyi haisi yechokwadi kana chokwadi, asi nezve mabatirwo ehunhu nehunhu. Sangano rechitendero rinoshora zvakapfuura zvepfungwa uye nzira dzayo, kazhinji, hazvina kumbovapo muGermany. Panguva imwe cheteyo, ndaigona kuona kuti mamwe mapoka anofarira anoshanda nesimba zvikuru kuti aratidze vanonzi vakarega basa sevamiriri venzanga yose, nechinangwa chokuparadzira mufananidzo wakashata we. Scientology munzanga. Dzimwe nguva ndainzwa sokuti uku kwaiva kuedza kutsausa pfungwa pakutsauka kwaiitwa mumachechi.
Bhuku rako rakaita sei?
PS: Ndaitarisira zvakawanda: kutsamwa kwakawanda kwetsika, nharo dzakawanda, hurukuro dzakawanda. Kunyange zvazvo zviuru zvemabhuku zviri kuparadzirwa, ndinoona sekuti bhuku racho harina kunyarara. Kunyangwe vaimbova vandaishanda navo kubva kunzvimbo yekubvunzana havana kuita nezvandakaburitsa, kana Hofisi yeGerman yekudzivirirwa kweBumbiro reMitemo. Pane kudaro, ndakakwanisa kuverenga ongororo shoma paAmazon. Zvisinei, handina kurwiswa somuparadzi wedendere kana kuti seasina sayenzi.
Panguva ino, shanduro yeChirungu yebhuku iripo uye ichabudiswa munguva pfupi iri kutevera.
Mukudzokera shure: Unoona sei “dambudziko rechitendero” rose zvaro?
PS: Hurukuro yacho yakawedzeredzwa zvachose, uye hapana chinobvunzwa. Nharaunda yeanonzi masekete inongobata chete dzimwe nzvimbo dzenzanga yedu, uye kazhinji inotaura nezvekukosha kwemaitiro kana, kungotaura, pamusoro pemubvunzo wezvinotenderwa uye izvo zvisingabvumirwe. Kune mapoka evanhu vanofarira vane dambudziko nechitendero chitsva uye zvekunamata, vanhu vanotenda kuti zvinokuvadza kuvanhu. Sei vanhu vachitendeukira kune zvitsva zvinopihwa zvemweya, izvo zvavari kutsvaga kana kuwana ikoko, kana chokwadi chekuti vanhu vanongonzwa vakachengetwa mumapoka akadai, izvo hazvina basa zvachose kune aya mapoka evanofarira.
Hatifaniri kusiya nyaya iyi kumachechi chete - sezvakamboitika kare - nokuti hurumende inofanira kunge iine basa rekuona kuti nyaya dzechitendero dzakajeka kana kuvimbisa kuenzana kwemashoko. Nenzira iyi, mugari anogona kugadzira maonero ane chinangwa.
FECRIS isangano repasi rose rinounza pamwe akasiyana siyana anopokana nemasekete. Wakambove neruzivo nazvo here?
PS: MuAustria, kunewo sangano rinotsigira nekusimudzira FECRIS. Nhengo dzayo ndeve whippersnappers vanopikisa chero rudzi rwechitendero chitsva uye zvekunamata. Vanoparadzira mirangariro yechienzi pamusoro pe“machechi” ne“nzira” dzavo. Ndaigara ndiine manzwiro ekuti vaiedza kupomera kusawirirana kwemhuri pa“machechi”.
Unoitei nhasi?
PS: Ndiri muzvinabhizimisi anozvishandira mubazi rezvehutano. Pano ndinofanira kutaurirana zvakanyanya pachiyero cheziso, izvo vatengi vangu uye ini ndinoonga zvakanyanya. Ndichiri kufarira musoro wacho uye pano neapo ndichiri kugamuchira kokero dzokupa maonero angu panyaya yemasangano ezvitendero.
Zvimwe pamusoro pePeter Schulte:
Peter Schulte inyanzvi yezvemagariro evanhu anozivikanwa nekupa kwake kunzwisisa kune zvemagariro uye pfungwa. Akashanda se "mumiriri" wehurumende pamafungiro nemasekete kwemakore gumi nemaviri, achiwana ruzivo rwakasiyana-siyana mukuoma kwezvinhu zvechitendero uye zvepfungwa. Tsvagiridzo yaSchulte yakapokana nemirangariro yaivepo, ichikurudzira kunzwisiswa kwakawanda kwemapato matsva echitendero. Nhasi, ndiye muzvinabhizimusi anozvishandira mubazi rezvehutano, achienderera mberi nekupa ruzivo nehunyanzvi hwake. Chido chaSchulte chekufumura hunhu hwevanhu uye kusimudzira nhaurirano dzine ruzivo zvakasiya pesvedzero yekusingaperi pasirese yesainzi yemagariro.
