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Ubhuti O'Sullivan
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Ngo-Okthobha, ndikuxelele ukuba ndiza kufumana udliwano-ndlebe kunye “ne-back-comer” uRomain Gutsy. Izolo i-Romain ikhuphe enye entsha ebizwa ngokuthi "Njenge-Uyghur e-China", kwaye njengoko ndithembisile, ndakwazi ukufumana udliwano-ndlebe. Nantsi:

Bro: Molo Romain, kudala ndingaboni. Ngoko Senditshilo kubafundi bethu ukuba ububuyile kwaye yandonwabisa. Ngoku, undixelele ukuba ufuna ukugxila kwixesha langoku nakwixesha elizayo, kwaye umbuzo wam wokuqala ngowokuba single yakho entsha “Njenge-Uyghur eTshayina”. Ngoku mandiyibeke ngolu hlobo: kwingoma ethi “Ukuba awukhathali”, ukwenze kwacaca ukuba “andizenzi kwezopolitiko”. Kwaye ngoku uqala u-2023 ngengoma yezopolitiko ephezulu?

Romain Gutsy: Asiyopolitiki kwaphela. Imalunga nengcinezelo. Abacinezeli banokuvela kulo naliphi na icala lezopolitiko, kwaye bafanelwe okufanayo, ngokusekelwe koko bakwenzayo ukucinezela abantu. Ndicula ngabantu. Abantu abacinezelweyo, nabantu abacinezelweyo. Andiyikhathalelanga into yokuba abacinezeli baseTshayina babengamalungu eQela lamaKomanisi laseTshayina. Andinanto ichasene neli qela ngokwe se. Ukuba bayayeka ukucinezela abantu, kulungile kum. Andinanto ichasene namaBhuda aphetheyo eBurma. Kwaye akukho nto malunga neqela elilawulayo laseRashiya xa ndicula ngamaTatar aseCrimea. Ndinento yonke echasene nabantu abathi, ngelixa bengamalungu elinye okanye elinye lala maqela, okanye nokuba ziinkokeli zabo, bacinezele abantu ngenxa yokholo lwabo okanye ubuhlanga babo. Njengoko kutshiwo kwingoma ethi, “Isihogo sizele” ngabo.

Bhuti: Kuyaqondwa. Ngoko wenze ingoma evumelana ne amalungelo abantu?

Romain Gutsy: Ungayithetha ngolo hlobo. Ndithi le ngoma ivunelwa ngabantu. Kodwa ewe, “amalungelo oluntu” nawo ayasebenza. Ndiyathanda ukuba abantu bakhululeke babe yile nto bafuna ukuba yiyo kwaye bakholelwe kwinto abafuna ukuyikholelwa. Ingoma ikhankanya abathathu abancinci abacinezelweyo: i-Uyghurs, iRohingyas kunye neTatars yaseCrimea. Aba bantu babandezeleka ngokwenene phantsi kwengcinezelo enzima. Kodwa kukho kude ukuba abe kuphela. Ndandinokongeza iiTibetans, umzekelo, kodwa kunye namawaka abanye. Enyanisweni, ikwabhekiswa nakubantu ngabanye. Nabani na ocudiswa liesile okanye isidenge ixhalabele le ngoma. Yingoma echasene nobubi bempambano kunye nenkululeko yomntu.

Bro: Ndibonile ukuba iingoma zakho zokugqibela zenziwe ngoburharha, njengokuthi "Intombazana yaseKerry" okanye "Inkwenkwe yaseFrenchy". Le ibonakala inzulu kakhulu. Ngaba uguqukela kwimixholo ebaluleke ngakumbi?

Romain Gutsy: Ewe, ndinokuthi "nditshintshe" amaxesha ngamaxesha, kodwa enyanisweni, nayiphi na ingoma inesimo sayo kwaye ayinakuhlala "imnandi". Andiqondi ukuba “NjengeUyghur eTshayina” “inzulu”, kodwa ayisosihloko esihlekisayo ngenene. Ngaba ubungumUyghur, umRohingya okanye umTatar waseCrimea, usenokungahleki kakhulu ngemeko yakho. Kodwa ayisiyonto “enzulu”, njengoko ibubugcisa, kwaye nangenxa yokuba ndihlala ndibhala ngomgama othile. Noko ndiyazama nam. Ukongeza, ubunokubona uburharha kwimpendulo yam kwingcinezelo: “Ndimxelela umcinezeli, isihogo sizele ngawe”. Kulinge lokunqwenela ukwenza into, ngelixa eneneni ngumzamo ojongelwa phantsi kakhulu ukuba ulindele ukutshintsha izinto. Njengomntwana othi, “ukhohlakele” yaye ulindele ukuba oko kuya kubachaphazela abantu ababi abamngqongileyo. Nangona kunjalo, noko ithetha okuthile. Kwaye ngubani owaziyo? Amandla amazwi, amandla engoma...

Bro: ndiyifumene. Njengoko sisazi, ungumFrentshi. Ngaba lo mbuzo wabancinci abacinezelweyo yinxalenye yemvelaphi yakho yesiFrentshi, njengoko sisazi ukuba iFransi ithanda ukucingelwa njengelizwe amalungelo abantu?

Romain Gutsy: okokuqala, ndiligcisa. Yaye mhla ndaba ligcisa, nam ndaba ngumntu ongenalizwe. Okanye kuwo onke amazwe. Ndazalwa ndingumCorsican, ngoko ndingumFrentshi. Emva koko ndadlala umculo waseIreland ndaza ndaba ngumIrish. Emva koko uMculo waseMelika waza waba ngumMelika. Umculo waseSpain waza waba ngumSpanish. Kodwa ndikwayiUyghur, iNigeria, iBritane, iJapan, nantoni na oyifunayo. Ngokubhekiselele eFransi, andiqondi ukuba idlale indima enkulu ekubhaleni kwam “Njenge-Uyghur eTshayina”. Ukuze ndibhale le ngoma ndize ndithethe inyaniso, kwafuneka ndive isiTshayina, isiUyghur, isiBurma, isiRashiya nesiTatar. Kwaye ukubathanda bonke.

Bro: Kulungile bhuti (watsho uBhuti). Ngoko kuthekani ngekamva, ngaba uceba iingoma ezintsha, kwaye mhlawumbi iigigs? Ndikhumbula kakuhle ukuba eyona ndawo wawuyimvumi yayikwiqonga!

Romain Gutsy: Zombini. Iingoma ezintsha ziyeza kwaye kufuneka kubekho entsha ekhutshwe ngoFebruwari equlunqwe yabhalwa nguMarc Bentel. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, uMarc wayesebenza ikakhulu kwicala lemveliso, kodwa wandicebisa ngengoma yakhe emnandi kakhulu, ebizwa “Inkathazo kunye neNkinga” kwaye sayirekhoda. Ngokumalunga neegigs, ngokuqinisekileyo yinto endiyicwangcisela ikamva. Kodwa akukho nto sele ikwi-ajenda. Kwaye andazi ukuba ndizakuqala ngaphi ukukhenketha. Isenokuba yiFransi okanye Bheljiyam, kodwa enyanisweni, ndityekele ekucingeni ukuba ndiza kuqala eUnited Kingdom.

Bro: Kwaye uceba ukuhlala "uzimele"?

Romain: Kuxhomekeke kwinto oyibiza ngokuba "yizimele". Ndiyakuthanda ukusebenza nabanye, kwaye oko kubandakanya iilebhile. Ke ukuba kukho amathuba amahle okusebenza ngeleyibhile endiyithandayo, ndiya kuyenza. Kwishishini, kukho abantu abazi ngcono kunawe ezinye iindawo zomsebenzi. Ngoko ke, kungcono ukusebenzisana nabo kwaye uphumelele endaweni yokuzama ukwenza yonke into ngokwakho kwaye ungaphumeleli. Kodwa kunjalo, ndihlala ndizimele kukhetho lwam, okungenani ezo zibonakala zibaluleke kakhulu kum.

Bro: Kulungile, enkosi Romain, ndizakongeza "Njenge-Uyghur eTshayina" kolunye loluhlu lwam lokudlala. Ngaba uya kuyilandela?

Romain: Ewe, Bro. Uqinisekile ukuba unencasa kwaye kuluyolo ukubonakaliswa kuludwe lwakho lokudlalayo.

Kwaye ukuba ufuna ukubona ividiyo yokugqibela ethi “Ukuba Awukhathali nguRomain Gutsy, nantsi:

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