Tichangobva kuwana mukana wekubvunzurudza vaviri vevadzidzi vanoshanda pachirongwa cheUkraine "Chitendero Pamoto", Anna Mariya Basauri Ziuzina naLillia Pidgorna, chirongwa chinotsanangurwa munyaya inoti “Russia iri kuparadza zvikurukuru maChechi ayo muUkraine".
LB: Chii chinangwa che "Chitendero Pamoto" uye chii chaunotarisira kubva kwachiri?
AMBZ uye LP: Chinangwa chikuru cheprojekiti "Chitendero Pamoto” ndeyekunyora mhosva dzehondo dzeRussia dzakaparwa zvivako zvechitendero, pamwe chete nevatungamiriri vezvitendero zvakasiyana-siyana. Kuti vaunze avo vane mhosva dzehondo kumatare, kunyora uye kuunganidza humbowo hwemhosva kwakakosha. Tichifunga izvozvo, chikwata chedu chinoshanda pamwe nemagweta uye tinovimba kuti data rakaunganidzwa nesu richashandiswa mumatare eUkraine uye epasi rose sehumbowo hwemhosva dzehondo. Kunze kwekutyorwa kwakanyanya kwemutemo wepasi rose werubatsiro sekuuraya nekupamba vashandi vechitendero nekuparadza zvivakwa zvechitendero, tinonyorawo nyaya dzekupamba zvinhu zvechitendero nekushandiswa kwazvo nechinangwa chemauto, iriwo mienzaniso yekutyorwa kwemutemo nemauto eRussia. Zvishandiso zvatinounganidza zvinogona kushandiswawo muzvidzidzo zveramangwana zvesimba rehondo munharaunda dzezvitendero Ukireni, mukugadzirira mishumo yemasangano emuno neekunze kwenyika, uye sehumbowo hwekuti Russia hairwise zvinhu zvechiuto chete sezvinowanzotaurwa nevakuru vavo.
Kuva boka revadzidzi, vakapira upenyu hwedu pakudzidza nokudzidzisa pamusoro pezvitendero zvakasiyana-siyana Ukireni, tichashandisa - uye tiri kushandisa iye zvino - zvinhu zvakaunganidzwa kudzidzisa vanhu nezvekukuvadza kuri kuita hondo iyi kumasangano ezvitendero akasiyana-siyana eUkraine. Tiri kuongorora zvinhu zvakaunganidzwa uye kupa mazano ekuti Ukraine ingadzorere sei hupenyu hwayo hwechitendero hwakapfuma mushure mekukunda kwedu.
LB: Sei uye sei iwe uchifunga kuti zvakawanikwa zvepurojekiti yako zvinobatsira pakuona kuti Russian Federation ine mhosva yehondo? Iwe unosimbisa sei chinangwa kana iwe uchinyora kurwiswa kwenzvimbo dzechitendero nevashandi?
AMBZ uye LP: Isu tinotenda zvakasimba kuti kunyora mhosva dzehondo kunobatsira kuve nechokwadi chekuti vanhu vese vane mhosva kwavari vachatongwa, uye kururamisira kune vakabatwa uye vanopona pahutsinye huchachengetedzwa. Tichiri kunyora chero nyaya ine chekuita nekukuvadzwa nekuparadzwa kwezvivakwa zvechitendero, tinoedza kuongorora rudzi rwebhomba tichishandisa data rese ratinaro uye kuunganidza humbowo hwese hwekurwiswa nemaune. Kunyangwe mhedzisiro yepamutemo yekuferefetwa kwekurwiswa kwenzvimbo dzechitendero haisati yaburitswa, tinoziva nezvezvinhu zvechitendero zvinosvika zvishanu izvo zvainangwa zvakanyanya uye nekudaro zvakaparadzwa nemaune neuto reRussia. Kuti tigadzirise kurwiswa nemaune, tinoongorora zvinotevera zvinhu:
- ufakazi hwevakaona, zvese zvakaburitswa uye zvakaunganidzwa panguva yedu pachedu yekuferefeta munharaunda yeKyiv. Zvipupuriro zvakadaro zvinoratidza kuti semuenzaniso chechi yeSt. George mumusha weZavorychy (Kyiv region), nhoroondo yezvakaitika kare yezana remakore reXIX, yakaparadzwa musi waMarch 7, 2022 nemoto wakananga.
- chokwadi chokuti chivako chechitendero chakaputiswa nepfuti, kunyanya panzvimbo isina chinhu. Izvi zvinoratidza kuti chivako chechitendero chaive chinangwa, ndizvo zvakaitika kuchechi yeSt. Paraskeva mumusha weDruzhnya (Kyiv region), uko imba yekunamatira yakaputirwa nepfuti.
- chokwadi chekuti chinhu chechitendero chakadzingwa mukati. Ndiyo nyaya yechechi yeSt. Dymytrii Rostovsky muMakariv (Kyiv region), uko mifananidzo yemukati yakadzingwa.
Tinoda kudonongodza kuti chero kurwiswa kwezvivakwa zvechitendero kunoguma nekuparadza tsika nemagariro nenhaka pamweya uye kudzikisira rusununguko rwechitendero, izvo zvinorambidzwa nemutemo wepasi rose werubatsiro.
Kuuraya nemaune uye kutora nhapwa kwevanhuwo zvavo kunoonekwa sekutyora kwakakura kwezvibvumirano zveGeneva. Parizvino tinoziva nezvenyaya dzinosvika makumi maviri nenhanhatu apo vashandi vechitendero vakaurayiwa nemabhomba, kupfurwa nezvombo otomatiki kana kupambwa. Imwe yenyaya dzinonyanya kuzivikanwa dzekuuraiwa kwemupristi nemaune kuurayiwa kwaFr. Rostyslav Dudarenko musi waKurume 26, 5 mumusha weYasnohorodka (Kyiv mudunhu). Zvinoenderana nehumbowo hwakawanda hwevakaona, akapfurwa akafa nemasoja eRussia pavakapinda mumusha, uye vasina pfuti Fr. Rostyslav akasimudza muchinjikwa pamusoro wake, achiedza kuuya kwavari.
Sezvo isu tine hanya, isu hatigone kusimbisa chinangwa chekupara mhosva, izvi zvinoitwa nedare. Asi isu tinogona kupa magweta ruzivo rwakanyanya nezveimwe nyaya, kunamatira kune chokwadi, chakapihwa neakavimbika masosi uye vakazviona, izvo zvinogona kushandiswa kuratidza ichi chinangwa.
LB: Chii chaungade kuti nyika dzeEurope dziite nezvemamiriro ezvinhu aya? Kufona kwako ndekupi?
AMBZ uye LP: Isu tinogara tichiwana rubatsiro nerutsigiro kubva kunyika dzeEurope uye tinotenda zvikuru nekuda kweizvozvo. Uye kuti tigadzirise kururamisira, tinoda kuti Nyika dzeEurope, kutanga, dzirambe dzakatarisa pamhosva dzehondo dzakaparwa nemauto eRussia muUkraine, kuparadzira chokwadi uye ruzivo rwehumbowo pamusoro pekutyorwa kwavo kwemutemo wepasi rose wevanhu.
Chechipiri, kutsigira zvirango kuvakuru vorudzidziso vokuRussia vanoita basa rinokosha muhondo kupfurikidza nokuitsigira, vachidana kupfuuridzirwa kwokurwisana, uye kazhinji kazhinji, vachishandisa pesvedzero yavo pavanhu vazhinji, kuvakurudzira kutora rutivi muhondo inopikira mubayiro wokudenga. Uye tinodaidza nyika dzeEurope kuti dzirambe dzichitsigira Ukraine. Tinonzwisisa kuti nekufamba kwenguva kunowedzera kuoma kuzviita, tinoona chibayiro Europe iri kuita kutsigira Ukraine uye tinotenda nazvo. Asi isu tichadzokorora zvakare uye zvakare: Russia iri kuita mhosva dzehondo kurwisa zvitendero muUkraine uye isu tinoda rutsigiro rwenyu rwese kuti imise. Tinoda kutsigirwa kwese kurwira rusununguko uye democracy, nekuti kusiyana kwechitendero ndiyo hwaro hwegutsaruzhinji.
