NEW YORK. - Ndatenda, uye masikati akanaka. Mufaro mukuru kwandiri kuva pano, kuSangano Romubatanidzwa Wenyika Dzapasi Pose, ndichimirira European Union uye ndichipinda mumusangano we[United Nations] Security Council kuti nditaure nezvebatira pamwe pakati peEuropean Union neUnited Nations.
Asi ndanga ndichitaura pamusoro pezvimwe zvinopfuura izvozvo. Ndakatanga nokutaura kuti tiri kurarama munyika yakaoma zvikuru, yakaoma uye yakaoma. Asi pasina Sangano Romubatanidzwa Wenyika Dzepasi Pose, nyika ichange ichiri yakaoma uye ine ngozi zvikuru.
United Nations chiedza murima. Nyika iri kuramba ichiwedzera kusviba, asi pasina Sangano Romubatanidzwa Wenyika Dzepasi Pose, zvinhu zvaizonyanya kuipa.
Ndaida kusimbisa kukosha kweUnited Nations sechiratidzo pakati pemhirizhonga.
Ndakaratidzira tsigiro yangu yakasimba kugadziriro yeChibatanwa chaMarudzi uye, zvikurukuru, kuMunyori Mukuru [weUnited Nations, António Guterres]. Kunyanya kwaari, kumudzivirira kubva pakurwiswa kusina chikonzero kwaave achitambura.
Pakutanga kwangu nhaurwa, ndakanangidzira ngwariro pazvinetso zviviri zvikuru zvenyika nhasi. Ose ari maviri inguva inotsanangura yeUnited Nations, yekuremekedzwa kwehunhu nemisimboti yeUnited Nations: Ukraine neGaza.
MuUkraine, hutsinye hweRussia hunoenderera mberi nehutsinye hukuru.
Ndinofunga kuti hapana nzira yekuti maUkraine azvipire, kusimudza mureza chena. Haisi nguva yekuti maUkraine [kuita izvi]. Vanofanira kuramba vachidzivisa mupambi, uye tinofanira kuramba tichivatsigira kuitira kuti [vakwanise] kuramba.
Ndanga ndiri muUkraine. Maguta avo ari kubhombwa nezvinokandwa zveRussia uye tsika nehunhu hwavo, zviri kutyisidzirwa nekutsakatiswa. Nekuti Russia inoramba Ukraine kodzero yekuvepo.
Zvakare, kurwisa uku kutyora kuri pachena kweChata yeSangano Romubatanidzwa Wenyika Dzepasi Pose, uye zvaisetsa kuti nhasi Mumiriri weRussia [muUnited Nations] apomera European Union kuti isimba rine utsinye.
Tiri simba rehasha here? Izvi zviri kutaurwa neRussia yanga ichitanga hutsinye hwakakura hwemuzana rino kune muvakidzani?
Zvakanaka, ndakakumbira nhengo yeEuropean Union yeUkraine, inova kuzvipira kwakasimba kwekuchengetedza kwatinogona kupa kuUkraine.
Ndakasimbirira kuti hatipesani nevanhu vokuRussia. Isu hatisi kupikisa Russia - nyika yeRussia uye nyika. Tiri kungopesana nehutongi hwehudzvanyiriri hwakapinda nechisimba muvakidzani wayo, kutyora chibvumirano cheUnited Nations.
Nyaya yechipiri iGaza. Mamiriro ezvinhu muGaza haachinjiki. Kupona chaiko kwevagari vePalestine kuri mungozi. Pane kuparadza kwakakura. Zvese zvinoita kuti nzanga iparadzwe, zvakarongeka: kubva kumakuva, kumayunivhesiti, kurejista yehurumende, kurejista yepfuma. Kuparadza kwakakura, nzara iri kuuya yemazana ezviuru zvevanhu, nzara, uye kushomeka kwakanyanya kwehutano uye rubatsiro rwevanhu.
Chatinoziva ndechekuti vana vakawanda [vari] kushungurudzika, nherera uye vasina pekugara.
Panguva imwecheteyo, tinofanira kuyeuchidza kuti kuchine vanopfuura 100 mauto eIsrael akabatwa nemagandanga.
Mamiriro ezvinhu aya anofanira kuderedzwa, uye nokuda kwaizvozvo, tinofanira kuwedzera rubatsiro rwevanhu. Asi tichiyeuka kuti dambudziko revanhu iri harisi kukonzerwa nenjodzi dzinongoitika dzoga. Haasi mafashamo. Hakusi kudengenyeka kwenyika. Haisi chinhu chinokonzerwa nehunhu. Ingwavaira yokubatsira vanhu.
Hongu, tinofanira kutsigira vanhu vanoshaya. Tiri kupeta rubatsiro rwedu rwerubatsiro rwevanhu [kubvira 7 Gumiguru.] Tinofanira kuunganidza nharaunda dzepasi rose. Asi zvine kukurumidza kuti zviremera zveIsrael zvirege kutadzisa kuwana rubatsiro. [Kuendesa rubatsiro] kubva kumaparachuti uye kubva kugungwa kuri nani pane hapana, asi iyi haisi imwe nzira.
Hatigoni kutsiva mazana ematani nemazana emarori anouya nemugwagwa ane oparesheni yemhepo. Zviri nani pane pasina, asi hazvititadzise kuratidza nekunongedza [ku] kuti chii chiri dambudziko chairo. Uye dambudziko chairo nderekuti hapana kukwana kwakakwana, nenzira yakajairika yekupinda iyo iri nemugwagwa.
Tiri kuparura maparachuti panzvimbo apo awa imwe chete nemotokari, pane nhandare yendege. Saka manje? Wadii kushandisa nhandare yendege? Wadii kuvhura musuwo kumota, kumarori?
Iri ndiro dambudziko nhasi, asi tinofanira kutarisa zvikonzero zvedambudziko, uye kutarisa [ku] nzira yekusvika runyararo rusingaperi muMiddle East.
Nzira chete yekuita izvozvo - kubva pakuona kweEuropean Union - imhinduro yehurumende mbiri.
Ndinokurudzira United Nations Security Council kuti itore matanho. Ini ndinokurudzira Security Council kuti inyore chisungo chitsva, ichisimbisa zvakajeka sarudzo yehurumende mbiri se "mhinduro" uye kutsanangura misimboti yekuti izvi zvinogona kuitika.
Kwatiri veEurope, hutsika hweUnited Nations hunoramba huri pakona yehurongwa hwepasi rose.
European Union inotsigira nemari United Nations. Isu tisu tinonyanya kupa mari. Isu tinopa mari inosvika chikamu chimwe muzvitatu chebhajeti reUnited Nations. Chikamu chimwe muzvitatu chiri kuuya kubva kuNhengo dzeNyika neEuropean Union. Tinopa mari [chinenge] chikamu chimwe muzvina chemasangano ese eUnited Nations, kusanganisira UNRWA. Tinopa mari [chinenge] chikamu chimwe muzvina chezvirongwa zvose zveUnited Nations pasi rose.
Uye panguva imwe cheteyo, tine [zvinopfuura] mauto makumi maviri nemauto uye mashandiro pasi rese. Ndakatsanangurira nhengo dzeSecurity Council. Pasi rose, kune vanhu vekuEurope 20 vari kushandira runyararo mumauto makumi maviri neshanu nemauto [uye mabasa]. Kushanda mumamiriro ezvinhu epashure pemakakatanwa, kudzidzisa mauto edziviriro yenyika, achibatsira kugadzikana kwese munzvimbo dzakasiyana siyana. MuAfrica - ndakataura [ivo] mumwe mushure memumwe -, muGungwa - wekupedzisira muGungwa Dzvuku (EUNAVFOR Operation Aspides)-, muMediterranean, munzvimbo dzinoverengeka muAfrica. Kupota nyika, kune vaEurope vari kushanda kuedza kuita kuti rugare ruve chinhu chaichoicho.
Tinofanirawo kutarisa nezvekudzivirira kunetsana. Zviri pachena kuti zvingava nani zvikuru kudzivirira kusawirirana pane kuuya nokukurumidza kana kurwisana kwatanga.
Usakanganwa nezve "kukanganwa" kukakavara. Usakanganwa nezveAfghanistan uko kune rusaruraganda rwevakadzi. Usakanganwa nezve zviri kuitika kuNyanga yeAfrica, kuSudan, kuSomalia. Pasi rose, kune matambudziko akawanda zvekuti tinofanira kuwedzera kugona kwedu kudzivirira uye kuedza kuagadzirisa.
Tinoda kuva muchengeti wekuchengetedza, kushandira kusimudzira kwakasimba uye kutsigira United Nations. Nekuti isu tinoda Imba ino zvakanyanya kupfuura nakare kose. Uye ndinoda kubhadhara mutero kumunhu wese anoshanda muhurongwa hweUnited Nations, kunyanya avo vakarasikirwa nehupenyu vachiedza kutsigira vanhu, kunyanya muGaza.
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Q&A
Q. Wangoti unoda rugare. Chii chiri kuitwa neEuropean Union, kana kuti chingaite, kuedza uye kukurudzira uye kukurudzira kumisa kurwa kwemavhiki matanhatu muGaza kuti rubatsiro rwevanhu rupinde uye kuve nenhapwa nevasungwa vachichinjana? Chii chinoitwa neEU pakusiya basa kweMutungamiriri wehurumende Ariel Henry kuHaiti uye tarisiro yePresidential Transitional Council?
Zvakanaka, Haiti ndeimwe yematambudziko asingaperi anga achiuya kwemakore. Izvi hazvina kuitika neusiku humwe. Nharaunda yepasi rose yave kutora nguva yakareba kuti ipindire muHaiti. Zvino, nebasa iri rakamirira kuendesa masimba avo pasi, pane mukana wekuyedza kudzoreredza kushomeka kwekugadzikana kuitira kuti vatumire rutsigiro rwevanhu. Ndinoziva kuti izvi zvinoda kushanda nesimba. Chandingangotaura ndechekuti tinotsigira basa iri. Tinotsigira kuendeswa kwemauto aya. Isu tinotenda kuti nharaunda dzepasirese dzinofanirwa kuita kuti vanhu veHaiti vabude muvatema vese mavari. Vega, havazobudiriri, zviri pachena. Zvinoda kubatanidzwa kwakasimba kwenharaunda dzepasirese, uye ndinoda kuratidza kuedza kwakaitwa neUnited States, Canada, uye [ne] vanhu veKenya kubatanidza mauto avo, mapurisa avo, mukuedza uku.
Tiri kuitei? Tarisai, pano paSecurity Council. VaEurope vari kuitei? Une France, une Slovenia, une Malta [avo vari] nhengo dzeSecurity Council inotsigira chisungo chinogona kuita mutsauko. Kusundidzira kuitira kuedza kuita kuti munhu wose abvumirane pane zvinodiwa, izvo zvinoguma kwenguva refu kurwisana uye panguva imwe chete, rusununguko rwevatapi. Iwe unoziva kuti kune kunzwisiswa kwakasiyana pakati peNhengo dzeNyika dzeEuropean Union, asi chinotibatanidza inyaya yekuti nhapwa dzinofanirwa kuburitswa semamiriro ezvinhu kuitira kuti kurwisana kumire uye kutsvaga mhinduro yezvematongerwo enyika. Uye ndizvo zviri kuitwa nenhengo dzeSecurity Council dzeEuropean Union.
Q. Kunze kwechinzvimbo cheSecurity Council chakatorwa nedzimwe nyika dzemuEurope dzawabva kutaura, pane imwe nzira here inogona kushandiswa neEuropean Union kumisa zviri kuitika muGaza? Zviito zvacho zviripi? Matanho anotorwa neEU aripi? Hatisati tamboona chero chinhu, kunze kweizvo zvawatsanangura. Chokwadi hapana chimwe here? Isu tinoziva zvakare kuti dzimwe nyika dzeEurope dziri kugonesa zviri kuitika muGaza nekutumira zvombo, seGermany semuenzaniso. Saka, iwe unoyananisa sei izvo uye ndeapi matanho chaiwo ayo EU inogona kutora?
Sezvandataura, ndiri kumiririra European Union yose. Dzimwe nguva, zvakaoma nekuti kune zvakasiyana sensitivities uye nzvimbo dzakasiyana. Kune dzimwe Nhengo dzeNyika, dzinozengurira zvachose kutora chero chinzvimbo chinogona kumiririra kushoropodzwa kudiki kwaIsraeri, uye vamwe vari kusundirana zvakanyanya kuti vapedze kurwa. Nhengo mbiri dzeNyika - Ireland neSpain - takakumbira European Commission neni, seMumiriri Mukuru, kuti tidzidze kuti uye kana maitiro ehurumende yeIsrael ari kubvumirana, kuti anoenderana sei nezvisungo zvinoenderana neChibvumirano cheSangano chatinacho neIsrael. Uye Muvhuro unotevera, kuForeign Affairs Council, tichava nenharo yekutaurirana nezvenyaya yakakosha iyi.
Q. Pamukoto wegungwa weGaza, ungangotitsanangurira zvishoma kuti unoiona sei kushanda uye uchaumburuka mairi. Tinoziva kuti pane chikepe chekutanga chabva kuLarnaka, asi chiri kuenda kunomira kupi?
Zvakanaka, iyi ingarava yeSpanish… Iyi ingarava yeWorld Kitchen, haisi ngarava yeEU. Handidi kutora hunhu hwevamwe, kwete? Ichi chikepe chakaiswa nevanhu ava vane hunhu hunoshamisa nekuti nezviwanikwa zvavo, vari kunhonga chikafu nekuyedza kutumira nechikepe. Uye sezvandakataura, tarisai, vanogona kuenda nechikepe - zviri nani pane hapana. Asi mhenderekedzo yeGaza haisi nyore nekuti hakuna chiteshi chengarava. United States inoda kuvaka mhando yechiteshi chezvikepe kuitira kuti zvikepe zvigadzirire kusvika kumahombekombe. Ndinoziva kuti izvi zviri kuitika. Izvi zviri kuitika, asi iyi ngarava yakapihwa nemunhu wega. Ndinoda kuvapa zvose zvakakodzera. Uye panguva imwecheteyo, European Commission neEuropean Union, [vakapa] tsigiro yavo kuchirongwa ichi [chemukoto wemugungwa]. Tiri kuita zvakawanda kubva pakuona kwerutsigiro rwevanhu. Tiri kuita zvakawanda. Asi yeuka kuti hondo isati yatanga, zuva rega rega 500 marori akanga achiuya muGaza uye ikozvino kune - mumatambudziko akanakisisa - asingasviki 100. Chimbofungidzira uchigara mumusha uye kamwe kamwe, nhamba yezvigadzirwa iri kugoverwa neshanu kana negumi, uye nekuwedzera kune izvozvo, kugoverwa kwekugovera kuri kuoma zvikuru nokuti kune zviito zvehondo zuva rega rega. Saka, isu tinofanirwa kuisa zvese zvatinoita pazvifambiso zvemugungwa, pamhepo, asi hatifanirwe kukanganwa zvikonzero zvedambudziko. Chikonzero chikuru chedambudziko ndechekuti nenzira yakajairika yekupinda muGaza, pane zvipingamupinyi zvinofanirwa kusimudzwa.
Q. Saka, urikuti unotsigira mukoridho wemugungwa, asi urikubatanidzwa here mukuuita nenzira ipi zvayo ipapo? IEuropean Union ine basa here?
Hongu, tine basa. Mutungamiri we [European] Commission [Ursula von der Leyen] akaenda kuCyprus, kunopa rutsigiro uye kubatana kweEuropean Union nazvo. Asi ramba uchifunga kuti ndiani ari kuita chii.
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Link kuvhidhiyo: https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/video/I-254356
