Sisanda kuthola ithuba lokuxoxisana nezifundiswa ezimbili ezisebenza kuphrojekthi yase-Ukraine ethi “Religion on Fire”, U-Anna Mariya Basauri Ziuzina no-Lillia Pidgorna, iphrojekthi echazwe esihlokweni esithi “I-Russia ibhidliza ngokuyinhloko amaBandla ayo e-Ukraine".
LB: Iyini inhloso ye-"Religion on Fire" futhi yini oyilindele kuyo?
I-AMBZ ne-LP: Inhloso enkulu yephrojekthi “Inkolo Iyashisa” siwukuqopha amacala ezempi aseRussia awenzela izakhiwo ezisekelwe enkolweni, kanye nabaholi benkolo bamahlelo ahlukahlukene. Ukuze labo ababhekene nobugebengu bezempi babhekane nengalo yomthetho, ukubhala nokuqoqwa kobufakazi bobugebengu kubalulekile. Sikhumbula lokho, ithimba lethu lisebenzisana nabameli futhi sithemba ukuthi idatha esiqoqwe yithi izosetshenziswa ezinkantolo zase-Ukraine nezamazwe ngamazwe njengobufakazi bamacala empi. Ngaphandle kokwephulwa okumangazayo komthetho wobuntu wamazwe ngamazwe njengokubulala nokuthumba izisebenzi zenkolo nokucekela phansi izindawo zezenkolo, siphinde sibhale amacala okuphangwa kwezinto zenkolo nokusetshenziswa kwazo ngenjongo yezempi, okuyizibonelo zokuphulwa komthetho ngamabutho aseRussia. Izinto esiziqoqayo zingasetshenziswa futhi ezifundweni ezizayo zomthelela wempi emiphakathini yezenkolo Ukraine, ekulungiseleleni imibiko yezinhlangano zasekhaya nezamazwe ngamazwe, futhi njengobufakazi bokuthi iRussia ayihlaseli izinto zempi kuphela njengoba izikhulu zayo zivame ukusho.
Ukuba yiqembu lezifundiswa, ezanikela ukuphila kwethu ekutadisheni nasekufundiseni ngenkolo ehlukahlukene Ukraine, sizosebenzisa - futhi sisebenzisa manje - izinto eziqoqiwe ukuze sifundise abantu ngomonakalo owenziwe yile mpi emiphakathini yenkolo ehlukahlukene yase-Ukraine. Sihlaziya izinto eziqoqiwe futhi siphakamisa izindlela zokuthi i-Ukraine ingabuyisela kanjani ukuphila kwayo okucebile kwenkolo ngemva kokunqoba kwethu.
LB: Kungani futhi kanjani ucabanga ukuthi okutholwe yiphrojekthi yakho kuyasiza ekutholeni ukuthi iRussian Federation inecala lobugebengu bempi? Uyisungula kanjani inhloso uma ubhala ngokuhlaselwa kwezikhungo zezenkolo nabasebenzi?
I-AMBZ ne-LP: Sikholelwa ngokuqinile ukuthi ukubhala ngobugebengu bempi kuyasiza ekuqinisekiseni ukuthi bonke abantu abathintekayo bazobhekana nengalo yomthetho, futhi ubulungisa kwabahlukunyezwa nabasindile kulezo zenzo zonya buzovikeleka. Ngenkathi sibhala noma yiliphi icala elihlobene nokulimala nokucekelwa phansi kwezakhiwo zenkolo, sizama ukuhlaziya uhlobo lokuqhuma kwamabhomu sisebenzisa yonke idatha esinayo futhi siqoqe bonke ubufakazi bokuhlasela ngamabomu. Nakuba imiphumela esemthethweni yophenyo lokuhlaselwa kwezikhungo zenkolo ingakashicilelwa, sazi okungenani izinto zenkolo ezi-5 okwakuhloswe ngazo ngokukhethekile futhi zacekelwa phansi ngamabomu amasosha aseRussia. Ukuze sisungule ukuhlaselwa ngamabomu, sihlaziya izici ezilandelayo:
- ubufakazi bofakazi bokuzibonela, kokubili okushicilelwe futhi kwaqoqwa phakathi nophenyo lwethu lwensimu esifundeni saseKyiv. Ubufakazi obunjalo bufakazela ukuthi isb. Isonto laseSt. George edolobhaneni laseZavorychy (isifunda saseKyiv), indawo eyingqophamlando yekhulu le-XIX, labhujiswa ngoMashi 7, 2022 ngomlilo owawuhlosiwe.
- iqiniso lokuthi isakhiwo senkolo sadutshulwa ngesibhamu, ikakhulukazi endaweni engenalutho. Leli qiniso lifakazela ukuthi lesi sikhungo sezenkolo bekuhloswe ngaso, kunjalo esontweni iSt. Paraskeva esigodini saseDruzhnya (esifundeni saseKyiv), lapho indlu yesonto eseceleni komgwaqo yadutshulwa khona ngesibhamu.
- iqiniso lokuthi into yenkolo yaxoshwa ngaphakathi. Kunjalo esontweni laseSt. Dymytrii Rostovsky eMakariv (esifundeni saseKyiv), lapho kwaxoshwa khona imifanekiso yangaphakathi.
Sithanda ukuveza ukuthi noma yikuphi ukuhlaselwa kwezakhiwo zezenkolo kuholela ekonakaleni amagugu amasiko nengokomoya futhi kukhawulele inkululeko engokwenkolo, enqatshelwe umthetho wobuntu wamazwe ngamazwe.
Ukubulala ngamabomu kanye nokuthunjwa kwezakhamuzi kubhekwa njengokwephulwa okukhulu kweMihlangano YaseGeneva. Okwamanje sazi okungenani ngamacala angama-26 lapho izisebenzi zezenkolo zibulewe ngamabhomu, zidutshulwa ngezikhali ezizenzakalelayo noma zithunjwe. Elinye lamacala aziwa kakhulu okubulala umpristi ngamabomu elokubulala uFata. URostyslav Dudarenko ngoMashi 5, 2022 esigodini saseYasnohorodka (esifundeni saseKyiv). Ngokobufakazi obuningi babantu abazibonela ngawabo amehlo, udutshulwe wabulawa amasosha aseRussia ngesikhathi egasela kulo muzi, kwathi uFata engahlomile. URostyslav waphakamisa isiphambano phezu kwekhanda lakhe, ezama ukuza kubo.
Ngokuqondene nathi, asikwazi ukusungula inhloso yokwenza ubugebengu, lokhu kwenziwa yinkantolo. Kodwa singanikeza abameli ulwazi oluningi mayelana necala elithile, ukunamathela emaqinisweni, anikezwe imithombo ethembekile kanye nofakazi bokuzibonela, okungasetshenziswa ukufakazela le nhloso.
LB: Ungathanda ukuthi amazwe aseYurophu enzeni ngalesi simo ngokuqondile? Luthini ucingo lwakho?
I-AMBZ ne-LP: Sithola usizo nokusekelwa njalo okuvela emazweni ase-Europe futhi sibonga kakhulu ngalokho. Futhi ukuze kumiswe ubulungisa, singathanda ukuthi amazwe ase-Europe, okokuqala, agxile emacaleni empi enziwa amabutho aseRussia e-Ukraine, ukusabalalisa ulwazi oluyiqiniso nolwazi olusekelwe ebufakazini mayelana nokwephulwa kwabo komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe wobuntu.
Okwesibili, ukumelela unswinyo olubhekiswe kubaholi benkolo baseRussia abafeza indima ebalulekile empini ngokuyisekela, befuna ukuqhubeka kwempi, futhi ngokuvamile, besebenzisa ithonya labo kubantu abaningi, babakhuthaze ukuba bahlanganyele empini ethembisa umvuzo wasezulwini. Futhi sicela amazwe aseYurophu ukuthi aqhubeke nokusekela i-Ukraine. Siyaqonda ukuthi ngokuhamba kwesikhathi kuba nzima ukukwenza, siyawubona umhlatshelo Europe yenza ukusekela i-Ukraine futhi siyabonga ngalokho. Kodwa sizophinda futhi kaningi: I-Russia yenza ubugebengu bempi ezinkolweni zase-Ukraine futhi sidinga konke ukusekelwa kwakho ukukumisa. Sidinga konke ukwesekwa ukuze silwele inkululeko nentando yeningi, ngoba ukwehlukahlukana kwezenkolo kuyisisekelo somphakathi wentando yeningi.
